Present: foo, tanya, oliver, doris, suntzu, binsh
Apologies: stefan

Meeting Opened 20:00

Tech

Misc

• berniq: is stream / adam available for Friday 20:00 — 01:00 ???
  • OK, no problems, should be there.
• oliver: status of scripts for moving zentrix systems
  • LDAP class is done
  • command line interface is done three-quarters
  • some special scripts …
  • maybe the end of the week / start of next week
  • Oliver feels STRONG!
  • If the script is done, it will manage the LDAP … in the class …
  • It is mostly a replacement for ISPman Agent
  • Oliver does not disagree with the promise that was made on his behalf ……

MySQL lost password debate

• how to hack the passwords back into MySQL?
• we have now a really big problem
• coz — error 1045 — access denied for user root
• we have lost every user access to the MySQL
• today we had to reboot the machine … which means the MySQL server was restarted … without any passwords … so cannot connect as root user
• ask google how to bypass the access controls / user / passwords etc.
• contact subik
• do we have a backup?
• yes, we have yesterday’s backup
• what is the format of the backup?
• it is in SQL commands, text, but it is over 100Mb and too big to edit.
• what is the table called in the password file?
• we need a way to bring the data back into the database
• start a new database, run the SQL, pray?
• mount the zentrix partition, download … soon … soon …

BYI

• Tanya: rehearse intro for EconSoli:  to summarise
• in german, can do it in english
• do we have a second artist to BYI?
  • Heiki, Valle (stefan’s friend), Teresa (anna’s friend), Delfin (M-ex)
  • doris will do the calls
  • re-check on saturday
• doris: coord with Bernadette, any needs?
  • no.
  • no beamer, no blog, no …
• statistics ….
  • 20 different talks at the same time, so nobody will read the programme
  • 4 in the same building
  • 25 person room
  • unknown location!!!
  • therefore we should put flyers in each of the rooms to get audience
  • we are the only proposal that is not theory, we are interactive
  • we should be there an hour before
  • the room is vacant 30 mins afterwards
  • afterwards group is “society property” collective commons
• ideas for other BYIs:
  • Linexwochen … no, techies, not art / ideas people
  • Romaeurope.org …

Intro

• intro, welcome, who we are, what BYI is, who are the artists, format
• 2nd part of the … relate to the text on the blog … save for the end
• ok, so let’s hear it
• “club” … “project”
• say something about ourselves … exists as such 2006 … registered under blah blah
• colorful mix of (types) interested in … our art is the intersection … tech and humans
• series of events, biennially, resonance, to enable artists
• accompanied by publication, digital form, …,
• this year we changed our path a little, but do BYI
• main thoughts:  we don’t want to deal with ready-made / realised ideas of art
• unrealised ideas, things that never happened for whatever reason
• how does it work:
  • you have to be an author
  • willing to share this idea with the world
  • after sharing / burning your idea, it goes into creative commons licence
  • it is up up on the blog with some supporting material
  • the idea then becomes real
  • we can observe it
• Why?  we are interested in q such …
  • why wasn’t an idea realised?
  • can we change something about it?
  • what happens when you want to share an idea?
• Another idea:
  • begin with a rhetorical idea for the question:
  • can it be that we all have maybe 1 or 2 ideas lying around in our drawers ?
  • then add the above
  • if you share it , it becomes real, this changes it, the idea is now changeable and changed
• description of how it works: 1,2,3…
• Then, Introduce Bernadette! briefly

Extro

• Is there a common element between different unrealised ideas?
• Are there common themes?
• What type of relationships can we find after collecting a certain number of ideas?
• Take interesting questions from Stefan’s blog, which is the same text we are introduced with in the EconSoli talk.

Aministration

Treasurer’s stuff

• presented book. What is this book for? it is to understand the laws, follow the paperwork, … Can the Verein pay for this? 16 euros. Agreed.
• Members
  • 19 paid members
  • 2 more who we can’t find the payment for… have to investigate, ask for screen shot, some proof, …? ask if the payment has come back?
  • then there are others who we should give the 0-value for
  • matthias will take the baseball bat around to visit matthias + philipp
  • negotiation will proceed….
• draft of letter for MA7: “as we have 10k, not 85k, …” german

Misc

• the next money:
  • prepare for NetzNetz
  • very difficult to chase these people who are losing service
  • there is an A-list of people who will vote for us, and are validated — 20
  • we can go to them: be in contact with them and by March we need a proxy or they need to turn up
  • do we have a date? NO not yet
  • 2 proxies per person
  • structure the list to identify the people so we can all do our proxies
  • this time they are really necessary
  • this will be a gemetzl!
• Matthias’s famous form … deferred by techie power
• classical only: people in St Poelten invited to church friday evening for organ music + 4shrooms
• suntzu administers del vino

Agenda

Tech

• berniq: is stream / adam available for Friday 20:00 — 01:00 ???
• oliver: status of scripts for moving zentrix systems
• all techies: how to hack the passwords back into MySQL

Art

• Tanya: rehearse intro for EconSoli
• all: do we have a second artist to BYI?
• doris: coord with Bernadette, any needs?
• classical only: people in St Poelten invited to church friday evening for organ music + 4shrooms

Present: Oli, foo, petipeti, binsh, SunTzu
Apologies: Doris
Opened: 20:10

Admin

• need to get the invoices back from Vorarlberg to see if the Simon K invoice is in there
• we can’t pay without the invoice!
• Simon to check whether he has received them.
• Members
  • Bernhard Lutz has paid membership at Donau
  • Tanya has paid her membership
  • Doris paid
  • Jan von Krieg paid
• members email is being created
• account: is not showing up the payment source
  • could be bank account
  • simon has (sealed) envelopes / mail from bank
  • …
• need to sort out the members list
• we need two Rechnungs Proofers to review
  • Tanya duly voted in
  • Stefan duly voted in
• the report is a simple single entry list of transactions
• membership is now a donation to be approved by the board on a case by case basis … with 36 euros considered to be a happy medium. APPROVED.
• within February, Simon wants to use his phone to chase people for memberships ….
• keep the phones until 28th Feb

BYI

Coded Cultures

• programme for BYI in Coded Cultures …
  • not possible to do it in Mumok
  • nor possible in Freiraum
  • we would need to have applied by deadline … apparently we didn’t … so we are not in?
• Georg says do it in G7
• can do a party?
• we could re-roll the Econ event ?
• somehow it would be interesting to connect the people together …
• so we need to get the exposure in Coded Cultures
• the programme for Coded Cultures?
• do an afterparty?
  • quite a different sort of environment to BYI
  • is G7 available?
  • foo has the account access to the G7 calendar
  • May is free in G7
  • bar costs might bring in some dosh
  • before-party would not be fun
• Should not be just a party
  • open house for ideas?
  • spread some flyers
  • can’t organise with a view on the calendar of CC
  • if we don’t know what they are doing, we can’t pick a day ??!
• we need 3 hours for presentation and BYI
• calender
  • saturday 30th May at G7
  • Saturday 21st preparation for the events
  • Wednesday 27th Academy in afternoon / part of CC / 1.5 hours / presentation
  • Friday 29th available actual burning / but no party / find a friendly place
• Could do a presentation at the Academy …
• should be 2 presentations within each
• 1.5 hours
• do some flyers
• invite some discussion partners
• organisers: foo + stefan together again!
• turn it this saturday into a template
• figure out what time we need
• then inform simon what the precise time is
• simon to schedule / coord with CC
• flyers …
  • nuss to do the
  • Simon will do the duplication of the flyers
  • ready for SoliEcon
  • no, useless, after

• SoliEcon
• work out at HollerG 15:00?
• then ice skating 19:00
• then 21:00 party with isabel
• announce these events on the blog!!!
• solved some problem on blog, websites broke down on IE …
• safari too, to be fixed

• Tanya has two friends who could do BYI
• try and get them to come as audience on saturday / SoliEcon
• one has contacts to young artists …

Funding / BYI
• budget has around 4k left
• NetzNetz probably happening March / April ?
• some tweaking of numbers, but rumours only
• Need to rewrite the concept for SFV/ma7
• need results on the blog
• need a clear path for proposal
• Simon meeting with RS at bm:ukk

• Names of the board members
• another attempt to fill in the board thing

T E C H

Tech / Assurance / CAcert

• 28th February, in G7 calendar, 19:00 – 21:00
• much excitement

Tech / Sympa

• Some problem with sympa
• the lists are organised with additions to board => addition to stuff => addition to members.
• some people seem to have been dropped from members / stuff: binsh, coryllus, petkova.
• not clear why, not in the sympa lists
• could be the mailbox move process
• burn.sonance.net does not get forwarded?

MEETING CLOSED 22:10

Present: Doris, Matthias, Iang, Philipp
Apologies: Simon, Tanya, Stefan, Oliver

• pay stefan 1000 euros, approved.

The Tech Wars

Disaster at Fort Zentrix

• we should move evolve
• we looked at the letters of complaints on mailing lists
• foo: talked to a client
  • has a HTML static website and email address,

  • wants to stay, will pay 36, but he is not an artist
  • nothing more, wants a CMS, perhaps a blog
  • iang; can’t see a problem as long as he pays
• zentrix Apache is still down
  • option a: leave it down

  • option b: turn it on but turn off all websites until they are checked as updated
• if someone is an administrator for a site, they have the responsibility of saying
  • “reliability is low,”
  • and you have to pay the membership”
• we should immediately make the email
  • do it today
  • in english then german
• it’s bad that users have the service and now it is going away.
• Decision:
  • All unknown websites turned off.
  • All known websites must have an administrator.
  • All known websites must have a paid up member.
  • Websites have to be moved.
  • Zentrix Apache is to remain off.

• Script:
  • Dreamer visiting tomorrow, Foo and he to do stuff.
  • Oliver + Matthias wrote a script.
  • ISPMAN writes a file for every host.
  • No way for ISPMAN to do it again.
  • Script changes old files to new.
  • but if we do it manually, each copy will cause it to happen.
  • it is 90G or 50G of copying …
  • Apache files are in ISPMan not Apapche???…….
• We should pay for this.
  • Oliver?
  • Need’s cash?
  • at least 300 euros?
  • I want a boat. Doris wants roses lifted in the air by helicopter.
  • 500 euros? budget is Approved!
  • 300 to start, 200 later when completed.
  • Doris: which budget does it come out of?
  • it comes out of the “MARCH COMPONENT” not the video component or other budgets.
  • and from memberships……
• THE LETTER
  • Need’s cash?

Other Casualties in the Massacre at Zentrix valley

• Instiki
  • Ruth wants data.
  • around 40 pages, could be scripted, encrypted in CSV
  • data is worldwide collection of experimental art (cooking).
  • export the data.
  • need a wiki .
  • we could use evolve.
  • everyone has to have a login.
  • Ruth can’t eat since Instiki went down.
• MAIL
  • manage.sonance.net can up the mailbox limit.
  • move SYMPA on weekend foo with berniq.
  • please check if corylus is on STUFF list.
  • please drop people from board list again…
• evolve
  • it is in use.
  • what is it for?
  • it is a social network, sort of like our own Facebook.
  • you can post artist’s stuff.
  • but, every time someone posts, there is a complaint…..
  • so people stop.
  • ok, so no more complaints about evolve posts!
  • bad content is better than no content
  • suntzu, simon, dreamer, martin, dominik have admin accounts
  • why isn’t BYI on evolve????
  • maybe good because evolve is down…
• blogs and video
  • foo will look at the video blogging this weekend
  • foo talk to yellow about how the video blogging works at okto
  • iang to write some intructions on the vlogging, once something works
  • nothing to write now, because it doesn’t work

Agenda

Vote on Proposal

Present: simon, oliver, foo, nuss, tanya, jvk
Apologies: pablo

quicksummary

• submit new MA7 report
• extend until May

BYI

• coded cultures, Georg R asks if
  • Georg R asks if we are taking part in BYI in whatever form
  • 27th May 31st May
  • Symposiums, exhibition, openings
  • who pays?
  • simon: not discussed, can ask…
  • possible to present as SE
  • or, invite the artists to come and burn their idea
  • how much effort will this cost?
  • we can do the 1.5 hours SE for free
  • Expanded 4 day Mumok discussion format?
  • call it 2 people, 100 per day each, 800, double for equipment, 2000.
  • suggest the number.
• BYI future presentations
  • 21st February, Solidarishe Economie Congress
  • Are they doing the documentation?
  • do we want to invite Okto team?
  • how should this presentation work?
  • Doris should do this?
  • Is it defined by festivals, Garnison7, or ateliers…
  • should always be a burning of an idea, not talking about it
• Documentation
  • do we want to invite Okto team?
  • Rho? could be asked, Heidi Hu and others
  • Has to fit in with their time period
• Video doco
  • Pablo looking for work
  • 100 per?
  • we don’t have enough money
  • we should do it for the festivals
  • Doris should do this?
  • we can’t really pay the artists for their contributions
  • maybe we can provide the doco?
  • maybe we can provide the market place for other skills?
  • Maybe there is 500 to 1000 for all the doco?
• Econo
  • 14th Saturday to prep the MC Tanya
  • HollerG 15:00

Tech

• what is the deal that the members get?
  • needs to be on the website
  • pay and we move all the domains and emails
  • how many domains, how many email addresses, how much space
  • if you pay, you get them all, for now
  • what about the future?
  • this is the future, at least until march
• Econo
  • 14th Saturday to prep the MC Tanya
  • HollerG 15:00

Admin

• addresses
  • directors listing
  • correspondent address of Verein
  • bank account address
  • bank account signatories S+P -> Doris+Matthias
• phones
  • how do we cancel the phones
  • “it’s a difficult one”
  • it’s a Verein’s deal / company phone deal
  • Simon wants to take over the number
  • Simon has to go and check it out
• Simon has to do the financial yearly report for 06, 07, 08
• rent paid
  • May 08 thru Dec 09
  • in public and embarrassing ceremony!

Agenda

Present: Tanya, Doris, Nuss, Foo, Jan.
Apologies: Oliver, Pablo
Meeting opened: 20:00.

Tech

• drupal/evolve to go to candy
• base to be killed.
• doris will get the PAID file
• delete resellers accounts
• recreate LDAP, apache
• CAcert:
  • VM is offered for their test server.
  • there is no work, they have sysadms.
  • apparantly not resource intensive
  • up to the tech team to decide coz they have to work with it
  • idea behind CAcert is good / aligned for sonance
  • suggested:  a membership: all agree!
  • Our President to contact CAcert local admin Philipp G and discuss
• the Famous File:
  • 5 payments in
  • new members…
  • 6 people said “I’m Out”
  • need to have personal responses with the people otherwise they will find it too harsh.
• How many members, place your bets, take your best shot!
  • Doris: 25
  • Tanya: 23
  • Matthias: 31
  • Stefan: 30
  • Iang: 40

Boring Administration

• new board elected…
• Doris is trying to get the bank account under control
• we have only got the access to online banking,
• we still need the bankomat card from Simon.
• Board agrees we need the card, and non-board members lose access to accounts.
• Phones: it is proposed to cancel both phones, they are no longer required
• Board agrees, cancel the phones.
• Phones 2: the old board said that the people who used the phones had to pay for their use after Resonance. However a rechnung was never generated. Should we
  • send an invoice?
  • forgive and forget?
  • send big men over and beat it out of them with a stick?
• Board decides to forgive and forget.
• Pay Simon Kogler’s invoice of 83 euros?
• Board agrees. But
• What about the change to the verein statutes?
  • address
  • board list
  • need to notify that we are charging members
• Charging members:
  • and then we need to do the accounting of the memberships
  • we need to put this in quickly because there is a fine
  • Doris will chase paperwork for next wednesday
• Doris has books at home, and a consultant and a course on legal structures.

Interesting BYI

• Contributions!!!
  • First contribution announced by Doris– bernadette
  • First contribution announced by Stefan:
  • Rebecca Loyche from Iceland rebeccaloyche.com
  • (nuss reads out idea)
• Blogs Admin wordpress
  • Doris asks for a login
  • Nuss is now “site admin” and can handle all blogs.
  • procedure is: mail nuss and ask for a user added.
  • 2 contributions now have to be entered in to blog posts
  • Doris can edit all blog entries
  • Doris should edit and add bernadette’s contribution
  • Not as a regular feature but to get Doris up to speed
  • Nuss wants to redesign the layout
  • a grid, a few lines, can see the different ideas….
  • should happen soon… but nuss is involved with other project.
• PR:
  • invitations are mainly private
  • as soon as we have the website, spread a call publically
  • netznetz, international,
  • hard to write personal emails because the project changed when I had to write out the personal email!!!!
  • it became more objective .
  • we wait until nuss says website is ready
  • we want 6 or so ideas up there already to make it exciting
  • now it’s time for prior players to put up the ideas … jan, doris, binsh
  • Doris, nuss are writing emails privately, still more to do
• languages, video
  • use wordpress blog upload
  • has Apache limit: can be lifted
  • idea should appear in whatever language the person wants
  • BBCODE is available for multi-language and other languages
  • we just need an example
  • nuss to send an example

SolidarishEconomy

• Nuss met with SolidarishEconomie person
  • we can do live live BYI
  • it is HUGE location and audience …
  • think about a beamer? We need
  • Stefan has phone number.
  • 21nd Feb, 17:00 – 18:00
• what do we choose? Meta-BYI or Live-BYI?
  • nuss: people don’t do lectures or workshops, but open to question of what?
  • jan: we could do 4 BYIs????!!!
  • doris: we can ask bernadette, and doris wants to do hers too.
  • 2-3 ideas would fit in an hour, no more
• plan for Live-BYI
  • Who would be an MC? nuss is not necessarily around
  • Tanya could be MC … but only if whipped!
  • Do we need a summary done in a sense of theory? Nuss: it is not an academic wrap up.
  • No, Tanya wraps up.
  • Doris: do a skype hookup with Iceland?
  • Jan: anytime tech gets involved, it gets messy and silly.
  • Doris: ok, delete my suggestion.
  • Jan:  I have deleted your suggestion.

Flights

• Flying people in
  • not on the agenda
  • nuss: I thought about it…
  • I rather changed my mind, I think this phase will be virtual
  • as there is only virtual … it makes less sense to fly people in
  • best to schedule these people & flights for resonance
  • release budget for other things
• all agreed.

Meeting closed 21:30, with general comments of “very successful meeting”  Cheers!