Tech

Assurance / Destroy Disks Event Saturday

• Matthias Subik cannot be there
  • need to get the drives from him.
  • can be done thursday or fridy (up to 17:00).
  • He needs to get the vault opened, should be by thursday.
  • need to have someone ride shotgun for handover.
  • we need to store them safely, 2 persons.
  • how about meet at OKTO 17:30 for handover.
  • need to confirm foo + dreamer.
• Need to plan on being able to zero the drives
  • 3 drives at least.
  • need computer.
  • need enough time.
  • meet earlier to start that?
  • see the drives then decide
• Food, etc
  • 1 slab beer, 2-3 wines, tappas.
  • 2-3 wine.
• Letting people know
  • let quintessenz people know on friday
  • let metalab people know
  • Bring your identity documents
  • clash with meeting 18:00 -> 22:00 some event discussion
  • (March event will organise the room being emptied.)
  • need banner to point downstairs
• How to destroy them
  • we have an angle grinder in the workroom
  • need to look at screws on drives to find screw drivers
  • destroy chips with a sledge hammer
  • foo to bring the camera gear

Miscellaneous

• Scripts – Dreamer update
  • almost done
  • lacks chown and ordering, then we can try
  • test run it this evening
  • a bit later … now ready!
• Test1 Machine was down (cacert)
  • email from Teus
  • needed to be restarted, there was a lack of recognition of the startup
  • once restarted, now available
  • talk to Philipp G on weekend.
• Backup drive
  • (last week) board voted to buy a USB backup drive ….
  • 100 to 150 euros
  • Firewire 400
  • buy at e-tec which is just down the road from the treasury department.
  • we do not trust the RAID for our backups ?!?!??!!
• Password recovery Hacking session
  • Last week sonance techies hacked on until wee hours
  • The passwords were recovered. See the blog.
• Support emails
  • Support emails are not being monitored
  • Once the people are not being given any attention on the support emails, they then email Simon.
  • We need the membership email address.
  • We have No-One managing the support email address.
  • There is nothing they can do anyway because the administration systems don’t work.
  • manage.s.n was down last day or so, now up apparently.
  • Dagmar Streicher, Mario Zink, have had their data extracted from the database.

BYI

• Philipp
  • (preparation workshop) Coded Cultures, students of Akademy — 28th April, if it is happening it is this date.
  • Festival Coded Cultures Akadamie May date: not known about yet.
  • 3 perspectives: coded cultures; classes in post-conceptional art practices; public view which will be students of academy, picture …
  • FOSS aspect is theoretical background of series
  • Pi is trying to establish himself in his new class?
  • We have to stick with our programme, ourself, …..
  • Simon: to answer Doris’s question: Pi tries to set up this Free Software … thing to present in his class … organising a series of presentations … needs to fill it with content … talking with his prof to get money / budget …
  • we are invited by Pi as student at University … wider sense is that this is a “performance class” … same as the Montevideo class.
  • also offered as part of coded cultures
  • do we need artists? Yes, but later, it is Post-MA7
• Last Saturday
  • need the collection of emails.
  • a few people left URLs.
  • a few students of Bernadette were present and want to be included. Also Ministry/Bulgaria/… (tanya has email).
• Lists
  • need to send an email to the people.
  • Simon had one contact -> Stefan.
  • start a mailing list?
  • events / push list? just a notifications list.
  • it was not announced through the Sonance news list, nor the Members list, nor the homeage of the evolve site.
  • who is going to do the maintenance of the announcements, where, etc?
  • Stefan may be willing to do this, but didn’t have time.
  • where should it be announced?
  • it should be everywhere? Members, News (press people are reading this), Burn blog, evolve?
  • News has a problem: press people are reading this, and have complained about bad announcements ….
  • Start a separate list for only press purposes.
  • But!!!! Simon, Tanya are not receiving the mails…. Send ping to Subik.
  • …
• Documentation
  • “This was the event” email.
  • We have some photos, which are the good ones?
  • Juan-Pablo is around, do we have to tell him to go ahead ?
  • We should have a documentation ….
  • should we decide what we want — sit and listen / look at the tape
  • or let him decide … “let the pros decide” says Mr Oliver “pro” Maklott
  • definately nice to have a small video … we should listen to the tape
  • Doris has started listening to it.
  • Tanya wants to listen to it too. Simon as well, maybe.
  • 3-5 hours needed … Do it saturday .. 16:00. Tanya’s place.
  • original discussion was like 100 euros per artist, 3 mins
  • Now, it could be one for Bernadette
  • And another for the questions ….
  • some questions were not answered …
  • we should not do a cut for every artist, …. so why should we do Bernadette?
  • we don’t have so many artists on film/etc so we need an example
  • Bernadette only spoke on idea for 3 minutes.
  • many different views … 1 or 2 clips ?
  • other people also wanted to talk
  • (stefan) much more interesting to see how the idea sparked the discussion
  • tanya + stefan … to decide, also figure out how much money
• Contributions
• we have people
• we need the CALL
• for which we need the WEBSITE
• Stefan introduces the website…
• Designed so it presents 3 by random at top.
• Has tags, Events,
• our contributions Jan von Krieg is doing ok, Doris too … Binsh?????????
• ideas that are picked up go into AFTERBURN
• Need to tap the people: yellow, coryllus, martin, meran, dominic
• Meran festival we should go and do it…
• Setup
  • the presentation should have been set up classically
  • Artist, camera, microphone up front
  • concentrate on the one artist.
  • we need someone who is leading the discussion …
  • (well, we did have an MC …) so more experience is needed
  • we all need more answers
  • but other ideas need other ways and means
  • the stage should be close to the audience
  • setup helped a lot to get audience involved
  • but the audience could not be controllled … that’s workshop!
  • some people said they wanted to burn their ideas, some people asked where these persons

Admin

• Paperwork
  • Matthias meeting with Simon for paperwork handover.
  • Simon has a letter to send to the prospective members.
  • needs to be proofread and translated.
• Admin Garni’s Son & gasse.
  • Philipp L away until 7th April.
  • Keys: Christian, Wellcafe, also special place. FF card at special place.
  • lock is broken, from use, wear and tear
  • RFIDs coming for keys.
  • writing funding apps.

Treasurer

• treasurer says: we need
  • funkfeuer year-long bill
  • oliver maklott honorarn
  • simon k. bankdetails
  • compose letter to members whose money transfer never showed up — doris needs help to write this letter. Simon is going to help.
  • THEN, go with simon (the zeichnungsberechtigter = person authorised to sign) to bank and investigate there in person, or get “telefonbanking” authorised. That again can also only be done by the zeichnungsberechtigtem
  • change telephone billing, initiate cancellation
  • deciding whether oliver cash membership goes into bank account or cash tin: DORIS to put it in BANK ACCOUNT
  • how much money do we pay for editing / BYI / juan pablo
  • People who paid: do they get a bill/invoice or do they get a membership card?
  • Some people pay when they receive an invoice: prepare and send an email/invoice — DORIS
  • no membership cards for next.
  • Simon is unhappy with his payments …BYI ?
  • we have to discuss payments …. in MARCH
• Memberships:
  • bernies question (more members) — there was a mail on the TECH list
  • subik membership
  • communication with members from tech side. who tells them bad/good/any news
  • one payment from israel is too expensive to transfer. perhaps free? how to deal with this for everyone??? Talk to the president.
  • check out Western Union Tanya to report now and later
  • Free people must donate a BYI! or become an ambassador …
  • …
  • We are never going to use PayPal.
  • Doris proposes that Antony get a free Membership in return for donating his BYI design money back to Sonance. Antony gets a membership …. Voted AYE
  • Simon wrote a membership letter ….
  • “Simon has resigned from the board, Matthias is new board president, here is the story about BYI and membership, also the blah blah of providers being changed, and we are thankful, and good luck. People who are donating should send the mail to doris/membership if they want a catalogue.”

Meeting CLOSED 23:30.

Present: foo, tanya, oliver, doris, suntzu, binsh
Apologies: stefan

Meeting Opened 20:00

Tech

Misc

• berniq: is stream / adam available for Friday 20:00 — 01:00 ???
  • OK, no problems, should be there.
• oliver: status of scripts for moving zentrix systems
  • LDAP class is done
  • command line interface is done three-quarters
  • some special scripts …
  • maybe the end of the week / start of next week
  • Oliver feels STRONG!
  • If the script is done, it will manage the LDAP … in the class …
  • It is mostly a replacement for ISPman Agent
  • Oliver does not disagree with the promise that was made on his behalf ……

MySQL lost password debate

• how to hack the passwords back into MySQL?
• we have now a really big problem
• coz — error 1045 — access denied for user root
• we have lost every user access to the MySQL
• today we had to reboot the machine … which means the MySQL server was restarted … without any passwords … so cannot connect as root user
• ask google how to bypass the access controls / user / passwords etc.
• contact subik
• do we have a backup?
• yes, we have yesterday’s backup
• what is the format of the backup?
• it is in SQL commands, text, but it is over 100Mb and too big to edit.
• what is the table called in the password file?
• we need a way to bring the data back into the database
• start a new database, run the SQL, pray?
• mount the zentrix partition, download … soon … soon …

BYI

• Tanya: rehearse intro for EconSoli:  to summarise
• in german, can do it in english
• do we have a second artist to BYI?
  • Heiki, Valle (stefan’s friend), Teresa (anna’s friend), Delfin (M-ex)
  • doris will do the calls
  • re-check on saturday
• doris: coord with Bernadette, any needs?
  • no.
  • no beamer, no blog, no …
• statistics ….
  • 20 different talks at the same time, so nobody will read the programme
  • 4 in the same building
  • 25 person room
  • unknown location!!!
  • therefore we should put flyers in each of the rooms to get audience
  • we are the only proposal that is not theory, we are interactive
  • we should be there an hour before
  • the room is vacant 30 mins afterwards
  • afterwards group is “society property” collective commons
• ideas for other BYIs:
  • Linexwochen … no, techies, not art / ideas people
  • Romaeurope.org …

Intro

• intro, welcome, who we are, what BYI is, who are the artists, format
• 2nd part of the … relate to the text on the blog … save for the end
• ok, so let’s hear it
• “club” … “project”
• say something about ourselves … exists as such 2006 … registered under blah blah
• colorful mix of (types) interested in … our art is the intersection … tech and humans
• series of events, biennially, resonance, to enable artists
• accompanied by publication, digital form, …,
• this year we changed our path a little, but do BYI
• main thoughts:  we don’t want to deal with ready-made / realised ideas of art
• unrealised ideas, things that never happened for whatever reason
• how does it work:
  • you have to be an author
  • willing to share this idea with the world
  • after sharing / burning your idea, it goes into creative commons licence
  • it is up up on the blog with some supporting material
  • the idea then becomes real
  • we can observe it
• Why?  we are interested in q such …
  • why wasn’t an idea realised?
  • can we change something about it?
  • what happens when you want to share an idea?
• Another idea:
  • begin with a rhetorical idea for the question:
  • can it be that we all have maybe 1 or 2 ideas lying around in our drawers ?
  • then add the above
  • if you share it , it becomes real, this changes it, the idea is now changeable and changed
• description of how it works: 1,2,3…
• Then, Introduce Bernadette! briefly

Extro

• Is there a common element between different unrealised ideas?
• Are there common themes?
• What type of relationships can we find after collecting a certain number of ideas?
• Take interesting questions from Stefan’s blog, which is the same text we are introduced with in the EconSoli talk.

Aministration

Treasurer’s stuff

• presented book. What is this book for? it is to understand the laws, follow the paperwork, … Can the Verein pay for this? 16 euros. Agreed.
• Members
  • 19 paid members
  • 2 more who we can’t find the payment for… have to investigate, ask for screen shot, some proof, …? ask if the payment has come back?
  • then there are others who we should give the 0-value for
  • matthias will take the baseball bat around to visit matthias + philipp
  • negotiation will proceed….
• draft of letter for MA7: “as we have 10k, not 85k, …” german

Misc

• the next money:
  • prepare for NetzNetz
  • very difficult to chase these people who are losing service
  • there is an A-list of people who will vote for us, and are validated — 20
  • we can go to them: be in contact with them and by March we need a proxy or they need to turn up
  • do we have a date? NO not yet
  • 2 proxies per person
  • structure the list to identify the people so we can all do our proxies
  • this time they are really necessary
  • this will be a gemetzl!
• Matthias’s famous form … deferred by techie power
• classical only: people in St Poelten invited to church friday evening for organ music + 4shrooms
• suntzu administers del vino

Agenda

Tech

• berniq: is stream / adam available for Friday 20:00 — 01:00 ???
• oliver: status of scripts for moving zentrix systems
• all techies: how to hack the passwords back into MySQL

Art

• Tanya: rehearse intro for EconSoli
• all: do we have a second artist to BYI?
• doris: coord with Bernadette, any needs?
• classical only: people in St Poelten invited to church friday evening for organ music + 4shrooms

Present: Oli, foo, petipeti, binsh, SunTzu
Apologies: Doris
Opened: 20:10

Admin

• need to get the invoices back from Vorarlberg to see if the Simon K invoice is in there
• we can’t pay without the invoice!
• Simon to check whether he has received them.
• Members
  • Bernhard Lutz has paid membership at Donau
  • Tanya has paid her membership
  • Doris paid
  • Jan von Krieg paid
• members email is being created
• account: is not showing up the payment source
  • could be bank account
  • simon has (sealed) envelopes / mail from bank
  • …
• need to sort out the members list
• we need two Rechnungs Proofers to review
  • Tanya duly voted in
  • Stefan duly voted in
• the report is a simple single entry list of transactions
• membership is now a donation to be approved by the board on a case by case basis … with 36 euros considered to be a happy medium. APPROVED.
• within February, Simon wants to use his phone to chase people for memberships ….
• keep the phones until 28th Feb

BYI

Coded Cultures

• programme for BYI in Coded Cultures …
  • not possible to do it in Mumok
  • nor possible in Freiraum
  • we would need to have applied by deadline … apparently we didn’t … so we are not in?
• Georg says do it in G7
• can do a party?
• we could re-roll the Econ event ?
• somehow it would be interesting to connect the people together …
• so we need to get the exposure in Coded Cultures
• the programme for Coded Cultures?
• do an afterparty?
  • quite a different sort of environment to BYI
  • is G7 available?
  • foo has the account access to the G7 calendar
  • May is free in G7
  • bar costs might bring in some dosh
  • before-party would not be fun
• Should not be just a party
  • open house for ideas?
  • spread some flyers
  • can’t organise with a view on the calendar of CC
  • if we don’t know what they are doing, we can’t pick a day ??!
• we need 3 hours for presentation and BYI
• calender
  • saturday 30th May at G7
  • Saturday 21st preparation for the events
  • Wednesday 27th Academy in afternoon / part of CC / 1.5 hours / presentation
  • Friday 29th available actual burning / but no party / find a friendly place
• Could do a presentation at the Academy …
• should be 2 presentations within each
• 1.5 hours
• do some flyers
• invite some discussion partners
• organisers: foo + stefan together again!
• turn it this saturday into a template
• figure out what time we need
• then inform simon what the precise time is
• simon to schedule / coord with CC
• flyers …
  • nuss to do the
  • Simon will do the duplication of the flyers
  • ready for SoliEcon
  • no, useless, after

• SoliEcon
• work out at HollerG 15:00?
• then ice skating 19:00
• then 21:00 party with isabel
• announce these events on the blog!!!
• solved some problem on blog, websites broke down on IE …
• safari too, to be fixed

• Tanya has two friends who could do BYI
• try and get them to come as audience on saturday / SoliEcon
• one has contacts to young artists …

Funding / BYI
• budget has around 4k left
• NetzNetz probably happening March / April ?
• some tweaking of numbers, but rumours only
• Need to rewrite the concept for SFV/ma7
• need results on the blog
• need a clear path for proposal
• Simon meeting with RS at bm:ukk

• Names of the board members
• another attempt to fill in the board thing

T E C H

Tech / Assurance / CAcert

• 28th February, in G7 calendar, 19:00 – 21:00
• much excitement

Tech / Sympa

• Some problem with sympa
• the lists are organised with additions to board => addition to stuff => addition to members.
• some people seem to have been dropped from members / stuff: binsh, coryllus, petkova.
• not clear why, not in the sympa lists
• could be the mailbox move process
• burn.sonance.net does not get forwarded?

MEETING CLOSED 22:10

Present: Doris, Matthias, Iang, Philipp
Apologies: Simon, Tanya, Stefan, Oliver

• pay stefan 1000 euros, approved.

The Tech Wars

Disaster at Fort Zentrix

• we should move evolve
• we looked at the letters of complaints on mailing lists
• foo: talked to a client
  • has a HTML static website and email address,

  • wants to stay, will pay 36, but he is not an artist
  • nothing more, wants a CMS, perhaps a blog
  • iang; can’t see a problem as long as he pays
• zentrix Apache is still down
  • option a: leave it down

  • option b: turn it on but turn off all websites until they are checked as updated
• if someone is an administrator for a site, they have the responsibility of saying
  • “reliability is low,”
  • and you have to pay the membership”
• we should immediately make the email
  • do it today
  • in english then german
• it’s bad that users have the service and now it is going away.
• Decision:
  • All unknown websites turned off.
  • All known websites must have an administrator.
  • All known websites must have a paid up member.
  • Websites have to be moved.
  • Zentrix Apache is to remain off.

• Script:
  • Dreamer visiting tomorrow, Foo and he to do stuff.
  • Oliver + Matthias wrote a script.
  • ISPMAN writes a file for every host.
  • No way for ISPMAN to do it again.
  • Script changes old files to new.
  • but if we do it manually, each copy will cause it to happen.
  • it is 90G or 50G of copying …
  • Apache files are in ISPMan not Apapche???…….
• We should pay for this.
  • Oliver?
  • Need’s cash?
  • at least 300 euros?
  • I want a boat. Doris wants roses lifted in the air by helicopter.
  • 500 euros? budget is Approved!
  • 300 to start, 200 later when completed.
  • Doris: which budget does it come out of?
  • it comes out of the “MARCH COMPONENT” not the video component or other budgets.
  • and from memberships……
• THE LETTER
  • Need’s cash?

Other Casualties in the Massacre at Zentrix valley

• Instiki
  • Ruth wants data.
  • around 40 pages, could be scripted, encrypted in CSV
  • data is worldwide collection of experimental art (cooking).
  • export the data.
  • need a wiki .
  • we could use evolve.
  • everyone has to have a login.
  • Ruth can’t eat since Instiki went down.
• MAIL
  • manage.sonance.net can up the mailbox limit.
  • move SYMPA on weekend foo with berniq.
  • please check if corylus is on STUFF list.
  • please drop people from board list again…
• evolve
  • it is in use.
  • what is it for?
  • it is a social network, sort of like our own Facebook.
  • you can post artist’s stuff.
  • but, every time someone posts, there is a complaint…..
  • so people stop.
  • ok, so no more complaints about evolve posts!
  • bad content is better than no content
  • suntzu, simon, dreamer, martin, dominik have admin accounts
  • why isn’t BYI on evolve????
  • maybe good because evolve is down…
• blogs and video
  • foo will look at the video blogging this weekend
  • foo talk to yellow about how the video blogging works at okto
  • iang to write some intructions on the vlogging, once something works
  • nothing to write now, because it doesn’t work

Agenda

Vote on Proposal

Present: simon, oliver, foo, nuss, tanya, jvk
Apologies: pablo

quicksummary

• submit new MA7 report
• extend until May

BYI

• coded cultures, Georg R asks if
  • Georg R asks if we are taking part in BYI in whatever form
  • 27th May 31st May
  • Symposiums, exhibition, openings
  • who pays?
  • simon: not discussed, can ask…
  • possible to present as SE
  • or, invite the artists to come and burn their idea
  • how much effort will this cost?
  • we can do the 1.5 hours SE for free
  • Expanded 4 day Mumok discussion format?
  • call it 2 people, 100 per day each, 800, double for equipment, 2000.
  • suggest the number.
• BYI future presentations
  • 21st February, Solidarishe Economie Congress
  • Are they doing the documentation?
  • do we want to invite Okto team?
  • how should this presentation work?
  • Doris should do this?
  • Is it defined by festivals, Garnison7, or ateliers…
  • should always be a burning of an idea, not talking about it
• Documentation
  • do we want to invite Okto team?
  • Rho? could be asked, Heidi Hu and others
  • Has to fit in with their time period
• Video doco
  • Pablo looking for work
  • 100 per?
  • we don’t have enough money
  • we should do it for the festivals
  • Doris should do this?
  • we can’t really pay the artists for their contributions
  • maybe we can provide the doco?
  • maybe we can provide the market place for other skills?
  • Maybe there is 500 to 1000 for all the doco?
• Econo
  • 14th Saturday to prep the MC Tanya
  • HollerG 15:00

Tech

• what is the deal that the members get?
  • needs to be on the website
  • pay and we move all the domains and emails
  • how many domains, how many email addresses, how much space
  • if you pay, you get them all, for now
  • what about the future?
  • this is the future, at least until march
• Econo
  • 14th Saturday to prep the MC Tanya
  • HollerG 15:00

Admin

• addresses
  • directors listing
  • correspondent address of Verein
  • bank account address
  • bank account signatories S+P -> Doris+Matthias
• phones
  • how do we cancel the phones
  • “it’s a difficult one”
  • it’s a Verein’s deal / company phone deal
  • Simon wants to take over the number
  • Simon has to go and check it out
• Simon has to do the financial yearly report for 06, 07, 08
• rent paid
  • May 08 thru Dec 09
  • in public and embarrassing ceremony!

Agenda