Doris, Matthias, Oliver, Stefan, Simon Häfele, Simon Kogler
topics
Simon: archive, core competences of sonance and relaying it to the public
Oliver: sonance-website
Doris: barbecue-party
Where to spend a week together? (…)
Linz, Stadtwerkstadt
Kunstfabrik, Großighardts
Kleylehof
…
Places for work and presentation -> based on the sonance-archives.
Who? When?
How to organise this?
Partnerships?
…
Going public in real life (Lab Factory, Wienstation … ?).
… Oliver
sonance as one-hit-wonder? To much energy blown into the air?
… Simon Häfele
Not in the position to decide on applications etc. … sonance can only be the result of the consent of all.
… Simon Koger
Archiving, reprocessing of the past can only happen in an effort of many.
…
further discussion about funding in detail and basically …
… Matthias
Website
Aufteilung
Menu Struktur
design
Startpagei: Portalstruktur
Redaktion / Editors: how to be implemented in the current cms?
Present: Dreamer, foo, nuss, doris, Vincent van Drassow, jan von Krieg!
Meeting Opened: 20:00
Tech
turning off SSH password access
For all machines
Send the users an email
Password access is not as secure because there are common attacks to collect passwords
Keys cannot be MITM’d
The second hard drive
Pablo has suggested it be used for editing
Agreed.
Where to put the videos for BYI?
Stream or darwin or …
Plugin …
have to figure it out … make instructions on the Burn site
FTP server…
Report to CAcert on Disk-Bash, also photos?
Admin
iang not around for periods in next month: 22 april, 29 apr, 06 may. Will be in Innsbruck. Prague, Budapest, London, Netherlands, Munich doing audit over CAcert assurance.
The board votes NO, cannot go…
Tanya starts full time job 4th May
The famous VEREIN form has been sent
BYI
Doris wants to come to NOW.
The famous report to MA7 is presented.
President Foo: Thank you for all of your work and energy and input into the project.
We will see what the feed back is!
Doris: saw 200 or so covering 4 square meters… do not expect an answer for 3 weeks or so.
We should have called SF-V to tell her that the objective of the project has changed slightly.
Publication of report: would not publish the report until it is approved by City.
Publication!?!?
Official reports only should be published. As soon as approved.
What about the numbers? Some of the numbers are still not sure…
We should publish, the project is still ongoing.
Foo: I see no problem because this is the work we have done, and this was the money.
Is it plausible if someone is getting too much money?
As a PDF. We should give credits of the people who worked on the project.
Members only should see the numbers.
Some numbers are scanned for by the xxxx and this could cause problems …
Foo: fine with leaving the names out…
Stefan: leave all the numbers out…
Dreamer: we have to make it available to members…
Tanya: leave the names out… spreadsheet too.
Doris: prefer to publish the spreadsheet
Decided: publish without the names, with the spreadsheet
Video clips
Pablo showed the first one
Some changes suggested by Doris
Meeting tomorrow for another task
Keen for another so Doris has started on a clip with Pablo….
In the park with a puppet theatre.
150 euros per clip
2 hours per clip
each clip 2 – 3 minutes
Wants to invent images for the clips, not just talking heads. Needs moods.
“We are so poor he wants to pay us for the privilege….”
New Dates
G7, Akadamie
Need to talk to philipp … for the Akadamie
Tanya, to do moderation, but wants to know what the framework is … especially considering… oh ok we won’t write that.
Tanya and Philipp need to talk… Seriously!!!
Simon Kogler: wants to burn an idea … but it has to be clarified.
Tanya, I want to burn an idea!!!
Semper Depot… Simon wants to write in a woman… extorted by the show… So Doris agreed to do it
But we have to sit in the audience.
We hate too-emancipated feminist bitches.
Why? just out of protest….
we will need to practice … Simon suggested he would be helpful
you can burn anything at Semper Depot but must not smoke any cigarettes….
Garnisongasse 7 30th May
we have to find artists. Tanya? Delfin?
good to do G7 in Die Eenglisch because we have international audience.
Iang could be moderator if invited. Begging would help.
BLOG:
Two contributions being finished, one from far away, and one from Doris.
Spanish contribution coming. So this will get it to DREI IDIOMAS.
Tanya has to work on hers…
Matthias has an idea….
The PRESENT IS CLOSED!
Now the FUTURE….
Photo session
… dark writing …
4shrooms … burning
Interviews…
Interviews with anyone… on burning ideas … also with ourselves
Go hunting for ideas on the street. Hey we could put it onto the BYI site first…
Player … play list something … video cuts …
The Pablo Report
What to do with Solidarisch Economische video / images
We have 3 minutes from Bernadette, and that’s it.
Do something else with the rest of the material?
He does not like the images… too boring … not bad technically, just flat and uninteresting.
These are the only images that we have up to now.
Doris wanted to make at least one video clip … not drop it completely.
Foo: need to see the video to decide.
Pablo: just make it an audio.
Pablo: how much time to spend, you want to invest in this?
Basically we trust the judgement here …
Who of us would do the audio / listening / cutting ….
Is this paid? Is this?
Foo: we should play it and watch it.
Who is interested: Foo, Doris, let’s agree on an afternoon …
Last week of April… 18th or 25th.
NetzNetz
NetzNetz
Deadline to apply is Sunday 26th April …
Before that we need to know: MICRO GRANTS versus COMMUNITY VOTING
Present: Doris, foo, dreamer, suntzu, yellow
Guest: Anne.
Not present: Latino Pi.
Meeting opened: 19:00 on time, in place.
Refreshments served: Fruit Juice, Coffee.
Agenda
Sign the form. SIGNED
MA7
Famous Transition Process
Famous Transition Process
FTP was previously read by all present except yellow, who read it on the spot. Much discussion.
Unanimous conclusion: REJECT the entire proposal in detail and in total. Non-negotiable.
Action: President Foo to advise Famous Author. Meet up on Monday to discuss the details, if desired. All noted in agendas. Dondrino 20:00 20090406.
MA7 BYI REPORT
This part assisted by suitably-aged juice of the vine.
pablo
original estimate was too expensive, get more clips for same money
2 hours recording per clip
have a say in what the recording, he needs the moods of the participants, not just talking heads
no good to have just a person to talk
let’s have this discussion on a wednesday
nuss sent a text for the report
accepted, is good
spreadsheet presented by Doris
jvk honorarnote 300 still missing
other honorarnotes still need dates
missing the Funkfeuer bill
total amount is 8 euros over amount of funding (good)
Text and graphics put together in fast graphic layout by Dreamer.
Report is APPROVED for delivery to MA7 the next day.
send a mail out that the people need to now log into their actual domain nams instead of ftp.sonance.net.
there is another problem where the modes of file were set that prevented the editing
which flag is it? sticky bit in the group permissions has to be turned on the directory
getting into trying out a new maillist server
datamail, to replace sympa
normal features …
direct SMPT support built in so doesn’t pipe the mails to sendmail
foo + dreamer
complete free one is kind of limited, only 5 lists
licensed list version is $50
Sympa does not support direct SMTP (slow, unstable, slow),
another main sever for webmail access to
a groupware tool
AJAX… PHP…
it has everything …
do either support client-cert login?
play around and let us know when the bribe is ready
DNS
bullshit data in the zone files
changed, fixed, works
resellers can … do this???
do either support client-cert login?
play around and let us know when the bribe is ready
no problems with LDAP ….
Members
one member moved
two more to move run.sonance.net
blog report from Senior Nusster
need to do a forward
do a move in DNS … OLI WILL DO IT!
Art
Bello (Member)
6th June
Sonance invites a member presentation wants to make a presentation here in G7
wants a beamer and speakers
artinprocess.com
they are in Sydney / Au.
if in contact … ask them … to run a BYI in Sydney
invite them to also do a BYI, start communication
(need to remember to get a membership)
Matthias is pursuing them
Art Funding agenda (continued from last week)
CC contribution page
sent in .. and approved
is it possible to get a screenshot
Rhizome
not a close match
so we should not burn the resources on this one
announcement of BYI
send it to various places
lists of lists …
need a date for CC ..
Vienna AllStars Session .. Garnison7 .. 29th May
When philipp gets back, we need to confirm.
Nuss to write the announcement.
Akadamie class … Simon Kogler …
BM:UKK
write now
due end of april
ask for support?
and then not work any more until my doctorate is finished in next 2 years.
less and less
will take the entire month!!!
MA7
Matthias + Stefan has to go to SFV to talk about small grants
doris comes late to meeting 22:00
sends MA7 report (draft) with iang
everybody is invited to come to saturday 19:00-23:00 party @ hollergasse
Finance
Luc does the membership love thing
bike fund has been paid
Sonance.net domain
nic.at costs 36 euros a year…
move it to joker
is … webmaster + support
ask berniq for the password / or get a reset.
sonance stickers – gfx
unremovable stickers — for device stuff, like security seal
15 euros …
picture? write SONANCE
sparklers photo
nuss volunteers!
needs exact formats
can do this as a PDF for others to download as well
can do buttons, someone has a button machine
Simon K
went through the transactions
Simon K was paid last year 9th September 2008
he has now been paid twice
not a member…
we should find him some work to do?
no, not happy
Doris to send an email, friendly
we should ask for the money back
MA7 finance
3 sections
all filled in with bills correlated to the sections
need to find the last 320 euros of bills
suggestions
not paid out as yet: pablo, FF, IG-Kultur, iang
money in account is XXXXX
text
draft of report to MA7 is circulated
Nuss to volunteer some text
purchases
microphone, 2 cables, 2 microphone stands, == 262
4shrooms something same bill (40 euros)
miniDV tapes 100 x 164 euros
tomorrow: 2nd hard drive, 2 x Firewire 400 cables, 1.5m.
phone bills, etc
Microphones. Doris has a 2nd microphone. Doris has Zoom. So that makes two.
so do a rental agreement for 20 events, microphone + zoom. 138.
Charge a deposit for all loans. In writing.
it’s not cool to have two classes of members
only renting microphones … is quite senseless … lots do it .. if we are going to do it, then we we have to rent the whole setup .. but that is doris’s.
we should not get into renting business.
then the stuff should be shared?
this microphone is not so expensive… so good to talk about it
every place that has equipment to lend has to repair stuff…
we don’t have the infrastructure to handle repairs …
so we shouldn’t lend it out …
sonance should not go into buying the equipment?
even if we buy it, it should have a manager who is responsible for it
e.g., the harddisks
Doris is the responsible person; Sonance owns the microphone
No loans arrangment, if there is need, come talk to the group
Any Other Business
Board meeting called for Monday 19:00 HollerG
approve the funding report
sign the change of directors
Added: Discuss the Famous Transition Process
FTP
iang submits permission for vacation next wednesday
the rest of the slack bastards need a kick in the arse
We have the first video … FOO will chase it onto the blog
We should do the Caveman blog post!!!
Oliver: big move progress report
It’s done!
can’t check it all, coz no net at Garnison7
a couple of domains are bad …
Berniq is maintaining sing / experimental stuff, ISPMan not running there.
will be working …. tomorrow when DNS catches up
databases not moved? Who is doing them?
BYI
BYI press / CC
the famous photograph
text 1: use sonance text of last week as per board approval
text 2: use the kogler edits on garnison7
Photo session carried out in the studio with sparklers and led lights.
BasisWien
invited to participate in panel discussion
26th May 19:00
important Austrian media institution that mediates the database
talk in the scope of the Austrian Art Critics Award
all the b%^*#y f%^*#@g Art Critics of Austria will be there
this could be a big event
Johannes G, Alexander N, Alion Rebel ???, Franz from Contaxt net /standard.at
Topic is: (writing about) Art in the virtual space: When looking for art critics in the virtual space one quickly finds some art – network projects and initiatives … that use that virtual space for representation as well as more or less subversive networking … the boundaries between social and art intervention staging and net art disappear … using art, it is about art, but conventional art critics won’t actually be found, . we present networks and initiatives whose discourse could be seen as art critique as well as art.
we agree to the invitation !!! Agreed
they would like to have a female speaker but they are going to get a DELETED and nothing else, as we do not agree to DELETED narcisisstic typical DELETED feminine DELETED. So say the chicks, as duly recorded by their faithful and obedient male slaves.
Decide next week who. Simon, no. …
Funding
NETZNETZ
Doris, Stefan was at NetzNetz meeting
10th May is date (guaranteed)
amount is not guaranteed, 80k requested, needs confirmation
new 80k miniinfrastructure budget …
can sonance apply for this or not?
word is that SF-V allocates it directly ?
details are unpublished / unclear / no deadline ?
Matthias + Doris to go visit her, ask Stefan
what are we going to apply for?
resonance ? BYI ?
so defer any discussion of that until some meeting
is Resonance == BYI or ?
to some extent this is a pragmatic / marketing decision
resonance is every 2 years
resonance 09 is BYI ….
Oli: we need more projects
definately resonance is latter half
funding is for resonance as BYI / book
evaluation of NetzNetz
does sonance take a position?
Does Simon take a position? Yes.
FAS — interview .
or position paper
FAS will ask for an online interview of everyone
6 interviews
in principle, Simon gets our interview slot
Potentials
bm:ukk
award for interdisciplinary art project 30th April
media art project 31st March (this is where simon has applied in the past, as he is trained as a media artist)
it is about an award for an already done project
so this would be re.sonance.007.
the clue: you have to put the right viewpoints on it
is it a lot of work????
4 versions (catalogues) and 2 pages of text
fitz nix done shotz nix ????
Rhizome
the new museum of New York is putting out a call for commissioned art works
fits perfectly with BYI
or is it? Oli: looking for actual projects…
BYI *is* a project, …
not a lot of work … text is already ready …
we would at least get on the website of rhizome
we are all google sluts now
there is a jury award and a public voting award
artists in vienna have a lot of experience in manipulating voting systems
EU mobility of Artists
need 3 partners (institutions) from 2 different member states to apply, at least, no upper limit on the numbers.
it is applicable to us
could be from 50,000 to 200,000; they cover 70% of total costs, the rest is to be found from additional funding.
15th May deadline
usually BM:ukk and MA7 will likely join.
to search for the partner institutions, look at Universities
its a pilot project; not so many applying
once we have the sheet from the EU, can get bank or xxx financing
Cultural Contact Point Austria will help us / etc
the mobility of artists means what?
bringing institutes together to feel like Europeans
you need business plans … exact definitions …
universities like this idea
partners don’t want to work …. they just want their name and the money!
need a basic schema to divide the WORK and money between the three partners
real preference for projects that are NOT IN THE CENTER
2010 cultural capital Tallin.
Misc / Board
“Transition Process”
transition process — mentioned only
remarks to the board
founded the company sitz …
invested about 60k into Sonance
the topic is about how
Defer this to next week, briefing paper has been distributed.
Question about whether board approves of the text for submissions:
SunTzu: not for art projects.
Dreamer: Yes, it is the public face.
Yes for funding.
OK, so discussion … let’s defer this until next time. Think about it.
As our current project is explicitly webbased, we need to get the website working properly. The current theme does not work on WPMU as planned – it does on my local WP-single instance. As I do not have access to to ftp, I cannot (and do not want to) fix this within our installed WPMU. I’ve already discussed this with Matthias G. last week. http://burn.blogs.sonance.net should get transferred to http://burn.sonance.net into a WP-single blog. This is ultimately urgent!
It makes no sense putting content on this website. It is no use inviting people to put new contributions on the website.
The problem needs to be solved – immediatly.
- Stefan
Report to CAcert on the disk destruction / Assurance party
the arbitration covers the disk destruction, no need to say much there
only need to cover the assurance process
oli is standing in / proxy for matthias tonight, will look at text later
membership bills
two bills prepared, being formal invoices
what is the text on there?
someone has asked for an invoice for “hosting” not membership
however sonance is not promoting the idea of hosting, and this is not a good idea
membership is a voluntary contribution, it isn’t a payment for hosting
the object of the bill/rechnung is the important thing… tax deductibility
CC text — DONE — mailed to stuff
garnison7 text translated to english
finish the funding for BYI
We need to collect the remaining invoices for 3000 euros
also need more content but that is not the issue right now
primary problem is to chase these people for the remaining bills
Pablo 1500. Agreed
Tanya 200, Oli 200, Doris, 350, etc
Microphone C1000 x 1 + cables. 138+10 (windshield) agreed.
microphone stands. 50×2 agreed.
binsh: artist research, representation/PR, presentation. 250. Agreed.
cables XLR, 10m x 2 = 40 x 2 = 80.
clip mike: 50
stickers for sonance for gear
if there is money left:
radiotransceiver for clipmikes. maybe, good idea, if there is money left.
meeting opened at 20:48
present: simon, matthias, doris, stefan, oli, tanya petkova
we need an explanation how to get in the blog, in order to write minutes (sorry iang, i tryed my best)
concerning latest stefan email:
burn website is ready, but doesn’t work with multy user wordpress
So is has been transfered to single user wordpress installation.
burn.sonance.net is the new and only working addresse. Still not online. Coming latest Saturday (says Matthias)!
Oliver’s script for the domain in the new system are done and run. Moving in progress. notice mail to clients will be sent when the definitive url is available/reachable online (36 hours).
Oliver gets payed 500,- for programming a script transfer for domains to/in/over vHosts.
general question: Doris to techies => sonance blog services. She wants a plug in so blogs could be sent per email.
Stefan suggests she should for this herself. But he doesn’t recommend it. Cause it’s not formatted then. After extended discussion, it is a work in progress.
Techies say generally not a bad idea to be able to offer this a service to sonance blog and list users.
sonance is getting a boy and a space to put things, downstairs at garnisongasse.
Our mail gets there. Mail box key is also there. It’s labeled.
Catalogues should be downstairs by the boy by april latest.
Decision: everyone who goes to the bathroom snaps a catalogue.
press issue for coded cultures (simon brings the topic)
as in the mail: we have a shared space with garnisongasse. 1000 characters for both. 500 per unit.
Must be ready till march 15. In English.
How do we wanna present ourselves?
Simon is voluntary to write the text in german. Tanya will translate it.
Contents: what photo?
Suggestion simon:
Short general explanation of garnison 7
Mention the groups active.
Among them sonance with BYI
About BYI: eather invitation to participate or just an explanation.
Stefan: collaborative aspect of sonance being reflectedt in BYI
Text is definitely in catalog.
Foto: which? Room garnisong?, us?
Abstract foto like eop? Erdbeeren? Fotshooting? Wer fotografiert? Simon volunteers.
Zip_it open source
Jeder denkt darüber nach… next Wednesday suggestions , or “BRING YOUR IDEAS” for fotos eg: paper burning, computer burning, (terpentine over Harddisk) kaminfeuer, or: tv with image of fire, or: tania will ask friends in basel (fastnacht burning, haywind…untranslatable)